How many sites can a server hold?

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graham08 View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Feb 14 2008, 04:55 AM Post #1
W.R. Private Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 12-February 08 From: UK Member No.: 800	I have a website in the works at the moment, and its quite multimedia focused being able to stream video and allow members to download them too. So I'd imagine this would put a bit of strain on the server. The server is dedicated and is running off an old Athlon 2400+, so it doesn't have a great spec, but for a server it seems adequate. I'm also planning to host a few other websites which won't be as demanding as the main site I'm hosting on it. But how badly do you think the server load could get and how often does this sort of problem occur if anyone has experienced it before? -------------------- www.chapterzero.co.uk

Catalyst View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Feb 14 2008, 05:27 AM Post #2
Codesmith Group: Administrators Posts: 947 Joined: 4-April 06 From: San Diego Member No.: 3	What method are you using for the video streaming?

graham08 View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Feb 14 2008, 07:39 AM Post #3
W.R. Private Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 12-February 08 From: UK Member No.: 800	When it becomes active I intend to use a similar styled system to youtube, I've built my own flv player and all videos are in the compressed .flv format. -------------------- www.chapterzero.co.uk

Sirkent View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Feb 14 2008, 08:34 AM Post #4
Loose bits sink chips Group: Administrators Posts: 2,068 Joined: 4-April 06 From: Kent, UK Member No.: 2	It's a bit like asking, 'How long is a piece of string'? Serving up video content, straight from flv files will largely come down to your hard drive and network speeds. One of those will become a bottleneck first. Your actual CPU and memory load will be quite low, because you're simply chucking a file from the hard drive, straight over the internet without it needing to be processed. The title of the topic 'How many sites can a server hold?' is a little misleading, but let me clarify in case your uncertain. This, again, is a length of string question. It all depends on several factors: The amount of static content (HTML and images) you have compared to dynamic and database-driven content How much work your dynamic and database-driven content has to do Whether or not your database is hosted on the same machine as your web server The level of activity each website receives CPU, memory and hard drive requirements for the above The spec of the server In practice, it's almost impossible to say. The best way to find out what will be enough, is to test it. As a really rough guide: Shared hosts regularly put up to 1000 low-visit websites on one quad-core 8Gb machine. -------------------- QUOTE(benbramz @ Aug 17 2007, 07:44 AM) Ive noticed that quite a few people are now adding quotes from the board into their signature. I think its started an new web-radiance craze.. :P

graham08 View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Feb 14 2008, 09:40 AM Post #5
W.R. Private Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 12-February 08 From: UK Member No.: 800	Cool, thanks for that post Sirkent I guess I will have to test it and see where it goes, although its a dedicated server it is a low-end machin,e so I'm just a little worried it might not be able to cope one day. But judging from what you've said, the main site will be dishing up a mix of dynamic and static content, but any other sites I'm hosting on there will 99% be static pages. 1000 websites on a 8gb quad core PC, I'm quite impressed at that. I should probably stop worrying and cross this bridge when and if the server does croak -------------------- www.chapterzero.co.uk

Sirkent View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Feb 14 2008, 10:18 AM Post #6
Loose bits sink chips Group: Administrators Posts: 2,068 Joined: 4-April 06 From: Kent, UK Member No.: 2	At the company where I work, the busiest website has about 10,000 visits on a busy day. It's an intensive perl-based database-driven website with a lot of very complicated queries. Our current boxes (quad core xeons, 8Gb memory) rarely hit 5% cpu usage or more than 1Gb memory on a busy day. In practice, we have one server for the application (perl) and another for the database. Recently, we performed some load testing, to see how far we could go. A company used a script which can make as many clients as required, which connect to a website and go through a pre-determined series of pages on that website. We used a commonly-used series of pages, including one of the most intensive available on the website, which requires a great deal of database and perl processing. We reached 300 users, requesting that page every second, before the server processing the perl reached 95% CPU and about 4Gb RAM. The database server sat at around 30% CPU and less RAM if I recall correctly. Even being conservative and putting everything on one box, I think you could easily chuck 200 concurrent users at one of those servers - and the likelihood is that you would get many more because nobody will request 1 page every second and not all pages will be as intensive. -------------------- QUOTE(benbramz @ Aug 17 2007, 07:44 AM) Ive noticed that quite a few people are now adding quotes from the board into their signature. I think its started an new web-radiance craze.. :P

graham08 View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Feb 14 2008, 11:18 AM Post #7
W.R. Private Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 12-February 08 From: UK Member No.: 800	It seems as though my fears are unfounded, especially as the site will be building its memberbase from scratch. The only reason I seemed concerned was that this isn't exactly a quad core server with 8GB of ram its more of a bargain basement server per-say. But thanks very much for the advice, I should get back to building the site ready for launch really -------------------- www.chapterzero.co.uk

Rob Kaper View Member Profile Find Member's Posts	Jul 19 2008, 01:26 PM Post #8
W.R. Corporal Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 19-July 08 From: Rotterdam, NLD Member No.: 1,069	Put your static files on a content delivery network such as Akamai. Amazon S3 is a good choice if you start small. No hosting provider can ever offer similar rates: overselled ones usually kick you out when you use too many resources (regardless of what they promise) and decent ones would happily host you but you end up paying far more for storage and traffic. Even when you host yourself you might not be able to compete with available rates. -------------------- Rob Kaper - Rotterdam Capsi - Live music and concert community Personal website

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