[Catalyst]

For all the details on what's new and links to download it check out Scott Guthrie's blog post:

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/200...5-released.aspx

There's a new MVC framework coming soon with .net for those that are into the MVC thing.

[shakir]

I checked out it great thanks

[Telos]

So have anyone tried it? New features seem really nice.

[Catalyst]

I've been using the Beta since it came out a few months ago and haven't touched 2005 during that time. I'd definitely recommend it.

[Telos]

May take some time before we start using it in our company but I'll have to install it to my home computer. Good thing that it supports .NET 2.0 too. I wish 2005 version would've supported 1.1.

[mouse_catcher]

Catalyst, on Nov 20 2007, 09:47 AM, said:

There's a new MVC framework coming soon with .net for those that are into the MVC thing.

I'm pretty excited about the MVC framework because I'm just getting into test driven development and the hoops I have to jump through to test asp.net pages is a bit rough.

Out of curiosity is anybody using monorail or any other third party MVC framework?

[Catalyst]

First off, I uninstalled my 2008 beta and put the final release on last week and I'm very happy with it. The whole application is much faster than 2005 and the new features are great, no complaints here and I can't think of any reason to not upgrade to 2008.

The upcoming MVC does look pretty interesting and I've read through some sample code and tutorials on it (and is one more reason to use LINQ from your other post). Right now I'm a bit torn about MVC and asp.net though. On the one hand it's elegant and that usually draws me like a moth to a flame, but then I really have to wonder, does asp.net need MVC? The existing framework does a great job, and I don't see that MVC brings much that's new to the table. I almost see it as an attempt to draw Ruby or Java developer into .Net by giving them something they're more familiar with to get them hooked.

But then it's pre-release and I'm sure there's a lot more to it.

It does look like TDD will be easy with the MVC, and it does give you more control over the code that sent to the browser which is appealing. Hmm, have to wait and see.

What are you currectly using for your testing - nUnit, the built in test tools, or something else?

[mouse_catcher]

Catalyst, on Dec 2 2007, 10:53 AM, said:

What are you currectly using for your testing - nUnit, the built in test tools, or something else?

My current TDD toolset consists of MbUnit and Rhino Mocks. I'm currently using the MVP pattern to make the code behind really thin and leave it untested. It works well but if the new MVC framework can make it easier and less complex I'm all for it.

The reason I like MbUnit at the moment is the ability to rollback database tests and make xpath assertions in xml.