[BigMike Sidelka]

Heres something i didnt know about tables, you all being experts probably have known this for awhile.
before I learned this I had my own syntax i used.

Table attributes on one line
<Tab>All content
<Tab>for all the content in table
Table end attrib's

and if I had a table within

Table Attibs
<tab>content
<tab>New Table
<tab><tab>New Table Content
<tab>end new table
end table

if you dont get it, heres and example

<table><td><tr>
	 dfsjkghkfdghkdf
</table></td></tr>

<table><tr><td>
	 kdfhjlkfgjfdkgjld
	 <table><td><tr>
		  fkjdfkljsdlk
	 </td><td>
		  kdfhgkfg
	 </td></tr>
</td></tr></table>

apparently this is why my sites looked bad in Internet explorer
IE and firefox at times requires this syntax

<table>
	 <tr>
		  <td>
			   content</td>
		  </td>
	 </tr>
</table>

to be honest i like my way better, its more organized.

[marcamos]

Ha, that is giggle-able.

If you're going to learn something new, though, learn to write tables like this:

<div id="hooray">
...content...
</div>

[BigMike Sidelka]

herkalees, on Feb 6 2007, 04:17 PM, said:

Ha, that is giggle-able.

If you're going to learn something new, though, learn to write tables like this:

<div id="hooray">
...content...
</div>

i do a mix. cuz floats can be dificult when it comes to 4 or more columns

[marcamos]

NewAge.Mike, on Feb 6 2007, 04:22 PM, said:

i do a mix. cuz floats can be dificult when it comes to 4 or more columns

No doubt about that, but I'm sure I, or someone else here, could whip you up a quick four column layout without tables. I'd be happy to if given decent notice and a few days to find the time.

[BigMike Sidelka]

herkalees, on Feb 6 2007, 05:08 PM, said:

No doubt about that, but I'm sure I, or someone else here, could whip you up a quick four column layout without tables. I'd be happy to if given decent notice and a few days to find the time.

i have a file somewhere that i have A-F in floats and put the order so I know. cant remember if I still have it.

[James Mitchell]

This will help check it out: http://www.openwebde.../2514/fluidity/

[TJSingleton]

Forget floats and use positioning!

[marcamos]

TJSingleton, on Feb 7 2007, 09:44 PM, said:

Forget floats and use positioning!

Slightly off topic here, but I've never fully understood why some developers choose positioning over floats. I can see why position is preferred when there is an elaborate set of boxes all over the place (for example, the Harry Connick Jr. site I developed), but in the case of multi-column layouts, I have much better results (more predicatable and enjoyable, I should say) with floats.

I love to learn, so please do tell why you prefer positioning over floats

[TJSingleton]

Floats are too fragile. I've seen italics break some layouts. They were not ever really intended for "layout". Your document order is tied to presentation. etc. etc.

[Ryan Fait]

While I hate to see the position attribute thrown around, I must agree that they are much less tempermental than floats for anything other than straight-forward layouts.

[TJSingleton]

Why don't you like positioning?

[James Mitchell]

Regarding the floats and positioning discussion it would be best to carry it on in the CSS Positioning vs Floating thread. I created it with a recap of the discussion already.

[marcamos]

JPMitchell, on Feb 9 2007, 08:50 AM, said:

Regarding the floats and positioning discussion it would be best to carry it on in the CSS Positioning vs Floating thread. I created it with a recap of the discussion already.

Thanks James! We can get this particular thread back on topic, if there is more to ask/discuss.